pappu
03-12 10:43 AM
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Our monthly subscription based model will help members get access to this area for that time period. In the coming days we will be consolidating all previous subscribers who are continuing their subscription at present to be added as well. If you are an old continuing subscriber, and do not have access, do send an email to info at immigrationvoice.org with your name, email, amount subscribed every month and your IV ID. We will verify it and add you. If you have given a one time payment this month more than $25, we will be dividing it by $25 and the system will calculate the number of months you are subscribed. If you have the old $20/month subscription, please continue that. We will add you in the Monthly subscribers as well.
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Raju
07-06 04:05 PM
AILA has reported a very interesting or confusing DOS LegalNet Office letter which one of the members received towards the fact that the consular posts had already been allocated their numbers for the month of July prior to EB visa numbers becoming unavailable on July 2 and that the posts may continue to use their July allocations of EB numbers, and continue to issue Immigrant Visas for the rest of this month, July, for those applicants who were scheduled for IV interviews in July. Hm.....................................
This was what I mentioned earlier. This was reported by AILA a while ago.
This was what I mentioned earlier. This was reported by AILA a while ago.
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10-23 12:34 AM
They are proposing to recapture 61,000 unused visa for Schedule A. Keep praying everyone!
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gc28262
08-23 10:01 AM
Read the definition of EB-2, and its sub-classification for Advanced Degree, Exception abilities and National Interest Waiver.
I agree.
Here is INA 203(2)A:
(2) Aliens who are members of the professions holding advanced degrees or aliens of exceptional ability. -
(A) In general. - Visas shall be made available, in a number not to exceed 28.6 percent of such worldwide level, plus any visas not required for the classes specified in paragraph (1), to qualified immigrants who are members of the professions holding advanced degrees or their equivalent or who because of their exceptional ability in the sciences, arts, or business, will substantially benefit prospectively the national economy, cultural or educational interests, or welfare of the United States, an d whose services in the sciences, arts, professions, or business are sought by an employer in the United States.
This memo is in relation to "exceptional ability" category which is different from the category most EB2 filers apply.
I agree.
Here is INA 203(2)A:
(2) Aliens who are members of the professions holding advanced degrees or aliens of exceptional ability. -
(A) In general. - Visas shall be made available, in a number not to exceed 28.6 percent of such worldwide level, plus any visas not required for the classes specified in paragraph (1), to qualified immigrants who are members of the professions holding advanced degrees or their equivalent or who because of their exceptional ability in the sciences, arts, or business, will substantially benefit prospectively the national economy, cultural or educational interests, or welfare of the United States, an d whose services in the sciences, arts, professions, or business are sought by an employer in the United States.
This memo is in relation to "exceptional ability" category which is different from the category most EB2 filers apply.
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raj7480
08-01 02:21 PM
When you have these news articles ready...one of the easiest way to circulate them is using a news wire agency.
I have used http://www.prweb.com/ before for my company news releases. It is free and if you want a broader reach pay $80. It is very effective.
It is a good idea to release it when something related to immigration is going on in senate or house. During this time, all major news network pickup articles from these wires based on keywords like "immigration, border issue etc"
So make sure you add appropriate keywords when you do the release.
I have used http://www.prweb.com/ before for my company news releases. It is free and if you want a broader reach pay $80. It is very effective.
It is a good idea to release it when something related to immigration is going on in senate or house. During this time, all major news network pickup articles from these wires based on keywords like "immigration, border issue etc"
So make sure you add appropriate keywords when you do the release.
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05-22 07:40 AM
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sri1309
03-13 01:28 PM
While we work in different directions for the same goal, please write to Zoe and others that we can help reduce the housing crisis, create jobs.
Please find addresses at the bottom who to send.
Sub: Legal immigrants Quota Problem: Employment based EB2, EB3
Dear XXXX,
This is to once again thank you for your continuous efforts in making things move in the legal immigration front.
We would request you to bring HR 5882 to the table and hence help people waiting for so long get immediate relief. We think this is the best time to do it as there are so many waiting in long queues for so long and are unable to buy houses though they are at rock bottom prices now, or change companies as some of us would also like to, and start new companies and jobs. There are very much needed in this time of economic crisis. Applicants in EB3 and EB2 Employment based greencard category are severly backlogged.
The problem is mainly due to country based quotas and wastage of many greencards due to administrative delays over the years, as you know. This can easily be fixed with a simple administrative action and need not need to be done as part of the bigger comprehensive immigration bill. We too need a change.
Below are some statistics and details of the problem, just in case you missed a point.
1. High technology H1-B visas allowed into US = 85,000 H1B per year.
2. H1B quota limit per country = None, quota limits.
3. Greencard eligible candidates = All H1B holders
4. Total Employment Greencards = 145,000 per year.
5. Quota limits for greencards = 7% per country and each family member is counted as 1 visa.
6. H1 holders from India = 30,000 to 40,000 per year.
7. Greencards available for India by quota limits = 2000 � 3000 per year.
8. People waiting in Queues = 37,000 � 38,000 per year.
9. Estimated wait = 10- 15 years per life.
10. Estimated loss of productivity = unlimited.
11. Loss of health and health related issues due to these worries = incalculable.
Consequences:
1. EB3 Employment based category from India is severely backlogged,
2. Number of applicants in Queues waiting to buy house = 300,000
3. Number of applicants in Queues buying a house now = 0.
4. Money spent by applicants on rent per year = $6 billion
5. Number of applicants having Citizen children born in US = 80%
6. Number of applicants unable to start own companies(as they are tied to employer all the time due to greencard sponsorship)
= 30-40%
7. Applicants disappointed and leaving US = 10-15%
8. Applicants planning to come back after retirement who take with them US Citizens who will sponsor them = everybody who is leaving US right now with Citizen kids
9. Burden on social security and healthcare by applicants in point 7 = billions of dollars.
10. Severe pain for everyone wasting time on worries and uncertainity.
11. Many people thinking of returning back, very disappointed.
Solution
Please provide immediate relief. We are still holding our bags in hands even after 5-10 years of playing it by law after applying for greencards. Please respect liberty and freedom and let that happen to legal applicants.
1. Please remove country quotas for greencards immediately to make waiting less for legal employer based EB2/EB3 applicants from India in long queues ALREADY in US for years.
2. This needs No new jobs or Visas. It�s just a simple fix to help bring joy to some legal immigrants and give them freedom to contribute more.
3. Please provide greencards for any legal employment based applicant who lived in US for atleast 5 years and is waiting for more than 5 years and paid taxes and live like a good American Citizen.
4. Please provide Citizenship for anyone who lived in US for 10 years and played by the rules all the time and paid taxes.
5. This will help people buy houses that are so cheap now which will pump in $40 billion even if 50% people buy houses.
6. Construction jobs increase as people start buying houses.
7. Manufacturing and auto industry improves as people start buying cars again due to renewed confidence. Else they continue to adjust with their old cars for now.
8. A fee of $1000-$3000 can be applied for premium processing which can generate $1.5 billion instantly.
9. Stop the distribution of 50000 diversity greencards lottery per year immediately. This is bad in the current times, when people are waiting in legal queues for ever.
10. Issue greencards immediately to anyone who did PhD in US and to Masters Students.. They will be more productive if you help here.
11. Please don�t wait for CIR to have these. This is a small admin fix, no new visas or jobs.
Please let us feel respected for playing by the rules. It will come back to the American people in full gratitude in the form of jobs and renewed vigor.
WE TOO NEED A CHANGE NOW.
A positive action in this regard will be very highly appreciated.
God Bless America!
Thank you very much for your kind attention,
XXXXX,
Category : Employment based EB3 greencard category from India.
Priority Date : xx/xx/xxxx
To President its on change.gov site under Agenda-->Immigration.
Zoe' Lofgren's addresses are:
Priority Date : xx/xx/xxxx
District Office
635 North 1st Street, Suite B
San Jose, CA 95112
Telephone (408) 271-8700
Washington, D.C. Office
102 Cannon HOB
Washington, D.C. 20515
Telephone (202) 225-3072
Please find addresses at the bottom who to send.
Sub: Legal immigrants Quota Problem: Employment based EB2, EB3
Dear XXXX,
This is to once again thank you for your continuous efforts in making things move in the legal immigration front.
We would request you to bring HR 5882 to the table and hence help people waiting for so long get immediate relief. We think this is the best time to do it as there are so many waiting in long queues for so long and are unable to buy houses though they are at rock bottom prices now, or change companies as some of us would also like to, and start new companies and jobs. There are very much needed in this time of economic crisis. Applicants in EB3 and EB2 Employment based greencard category are severly backlogged.
The problem is mainly due to country based quotas and wastage of many greencards due to administrative delays over the years, as you know. This can easily be fixed with a simple administrative action and need not need to be done as part of the bigger comprehensive immigration bill. We too need a change.
Below are some statistics and details of the problem, just in case you missed a point.
1. High technology H1-B visas allowed into US = 85,000 H1B per year.
2. H1B quota limit per country = None, quota limits.
3. Greencard eligible candidates = All H1B holders
4. Total Employment Greencards = 145,000 per year.
5. Quota limits for greencards = 7% per country and each family member is counted as 1 visa.
6. H1 holders from India = 30,000 to 40,000 per year.
7. Greencards available for India by quota limits = 2000 � 3000 per year.
8. People waiting in Queues = 37,000 � 38,000 per year.
9. Estimated wait = 10- 15 years per life.
10. Estimated loss of productivity = unlimited.
11. Loss of health and health related issues due to these worries = incalculable.
Consequences:
1. EB3 Employment based category from India is severely backlogged,
2. Number of applicants in Queues waiting to buy house = 300,000
3. Number of applicants in Queues buying a house now = 0.
4. Money spent by applicants on rent per year = $6 billion
5. Number of applicants having Citizen children born in US = 80%
6. Number of applicants unable to start own companies(as they are tied to employer all the time due to greencard sponsorship)
= 30-40%
7. Applicants disappointed and leaving US = 10-15%
8. Applicants planning to come back after retirement who take with them US Citizens who will sponsor them = everybody who is leaving US right now with Citizen kids
9. Burden on social security and healthcare by applicants in point 7 = billions of dollars.
10. Severe pain for everyone wasting time on worries and uncertainity.
11. Many people thinking of returning back, very disappointed.
Solution
Please provide immediate relief. We are still holding our bags in hands even after 5-10 years of playing it by law after applying for greencards. Please respect liberty and freedom and let that happen to legal applicants.
1. Please remove country quotas for greencards immediately to make waiting less for legal employer based EB2/EB3 applicants from India in long queues ALREADY in US for years.
2. This needs No new jobs or Visas. It�s just a simple fix to help bring joy to some legal immigrants and give them freedom to contribute more.
3. Please provide greencards for any legal employment based applicant who lived in US for atleast 5 years and is waiting for more than 5 years and paid taxes and live like a good American Citizen.
4. Please provide Citizenship for anyone who lived in US for 10 years and played by the rules all the time and paid taxes.
5. This will help people buy houses that are so cheap now which will pump in $40 billion even if 50% people buy houses.
6. Construction jobs increase as people start buying houses.
7. Manufacturing and auto industry improves as people start buying cars again due to renewed confidence. Else they continue to adjust with their old cars for now.
8. A fee of $1000-$3000 can be applied for premium processing which can generate $1.5 billion instantly.
9. Stop the distribution of 50000 diversity greencards lottery per year immediately. This is bad in the current times, when people are waiting in legal queues for ever.
10. Issue greencards immediately to anyone who did PhD in US and to Masters Students.. They will be more productive if you help here.
11. Please don�t wait for CIR to have these. This is a small admin fix, no new visas or jobs.
Please let us feel respected for playing by the rules. It will come back to the American people in full gratitude in the form of jobs and renewed vigor.
WE TOO NEED A CHANGE NOW.
A positive action in this regard will be very highly appreciated.
God Bless America!
Thank you very much for your kind attention,
XXXXX,
Category : Employment based EB3 greencard category from India.
Priority Date : xx/xx/xxxx
To President its on change.gov site under Agenda-->Immigration.
Zoe' Lofgren's addresses are:
Priority Date : xx/xx/xxxx
District Office
635 North 1st Street, Suite B
San Jose, CA 95112
Telephone (408) 271-8700
Washington, D.C. Office
102 Cannon HOB
Washington, D.C. 20515
Telephone (202) 225-3072
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07-15 01:10 AM
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ak_2006
06-10 02:13 PM
Can you post the link of the official announcement, thanks in advance
http://www.dhs.gov/xnews/releases/pr_1213101513448.shtm
http://www.dhs.gov/xnews/releases/pr_1213101513448.shtm
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desi3933
08-13 04:02 PM
I don't think we can do 'anything' about EB3 I. We are 100% at the mercy of USA (politicians, USCIS, DOS or whoever).
We can write letters, emails, fax, contribute to IV but nothing is gonna help. This is the fact!
We are not going to get our GC when we need it but only when they give it. And, it is not going to happen anytime sooner.
The options that we have in front of us (which would work for sure):
1. Live with this. Don't come to any forum, don't think about VISA bulletin. Take your Gc when it comes to your doorstep. May be by then, we may not need it. We may be tired of being on the same job and GC may not bring any motivation to our career.
2. Move over to EB2 - If possible, take all the pains of changing job, place of living, unpredictability in PERM queue and I140 queue and move over to EB2. But you never know. One of our Indian brothers might have just won a lawsuit to stop us from moving over!! In that sense, EB3 I is worst than illegals. Least wanted legals in the USA!!
3. Get out of this country - Give up the American dream and come to reality and start a new dream. May be Canadian dream or Australian dream...
We are stuck. And, nobody is going to help us. This is hard fact. Believe it.
Wearing my optimist hat, the only thing I can think of is, whether IV supports it or not (reason I say this is - once we talk about this -the core is going to refer to poor 'high five' collection or 'low number of people calling congressmen' etc. Not blaming them. They have their own issues. For us, the problems are bigger. IV core will not do anything for EB3 I exclusive) some 50-100 EB3 I applicants should go to DC and meet high officials, CHC folks and every department that is influential to EB immigrant VISA and make them understand our plight. No guarantee that this would work. But, we will get a first hand response that may help atleast help us to chose from one of 3 options listed above.
The only practical solution, IMHO, is to move over to EB-2. Like they say, If you can't beat them, join them.
______________________________
US Permanent Resident since 2002
N-400 Oath Date on Aug 19th, 2008
We can write letters, emails, fax, contribute to IV but nothing is gonna help. This is the fact!
We are not going to get our GC when we need it but only when they give it. And, it is not going to happen anytime sooner.
The options that we have in front of us (which would work for sure):
1. Live with this. Don't come to any forum, don't think about VISA bulletin. Take your Gc when it comes to your doorstep. May be by then, we may not need it. We may be tired of being on the same job and GC may not bring any motivation to our career.
2. Move over to EB2 - If possible, take all the pains of changing job, place of living, unpredictability in PERM queue and I140 queue and move over to EB2. But you never know. One of our Indian brothers might have just won a lawsuit to stop us from moving over!! In that sense, EB3 I is worst than illegals. Least wanted legals in the USA!!
3. Get out of this country - Give up the American dream and come to reality and start a new dream. May be Canadian dream or Australian dream...
We are stuck. And, nobody is going to help us. This is hard fact. Believe it.
Wearing my optimist hat, the only thing I can think of is, whether IV supports it or not (reason I say this is - once we talk about this -the core is going to refer to poor 'high five' collection or 'low number of people calling congressmen' etc. Not blaming them. They have their own issues. For us, the problems are bigger. IV core will not do anything for EB3 I exclusive) some 50-100 EB3 I applicants should go to DC and meet high officials, CHC folks and every department that is influential to EB immigrant VISA and make them understand our plight. No guarantee that this would work. But, we will get a first hand response that may help atleast help us to chose from one of 3 options listed above.
The only practical solution, IMHO, is to move over to EB-2. Like they say, If you can't beat them, join them.
______________________________
US Permanent Resident since 2002
N-400 Oath Date on Aug 19th, 2008
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baburob2
03-09 11:19 AM
both amendments J-1 and removal cap for Nurses (India) will pass
hi indio
which cap on Nurse are they talking about. Is it the EB cap or H1B cap?
hi indio
which cap on Nurse are they talking about. Is it the EB cap or H1B cap?
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Kodi
06-04 01:09 PM
Thanks Pappu. What kind of hurdles do u think?
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snthampi
09-02 01:09 PM
Landed here in November 2000. Started the GC process in 2004. Could've filed on EB2, but didn't care much when the employer insisted on filing under EB3 for whatever stupid reason. My PD is May 2004 (EB3). It wasn't making much difference then. But, now things are different and EB3 is totally screwed up.
Actually, I am not worried about the GC much, because I am not sure about my future plans. If I make a firm decision to stay, I might reapply in EB2. Life is worth a billion billion times more than the GC. So, let it take its own sweet time. Concentrate on your life and career, and SURELY HAVE A LOT OF FUN BECAUSE LIFE IS SHORT AND YOU LIVE ONLY ONCE.
Actually, I am not worried about the GC much, because I am not sure about my future plans. If I make a firm decision to stay, I might reapply in EB2. Life is worth a billion billion times more than the GC. So, let it take its own sweet time. Concentrate on your life and career, and SURELY HAVE A LOT OF FUN BECAUSE LIFE IS SHORT AND YOU LIVE ONLY ONCE.
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05-14 07:19 AM
Hi
BOA is now asking me for I-94. In my I-94 it is stamped as"Paroled until July 29th 2010" - will they interpret this as my valid stay in the US being only till July 29th? Not sure how I can explain this to them
Chandana
BOA is now asking me for I-94. In my I-94 it is stamped as"Paroled until July 29th 2010" - will they interpret this as my valid stay in the US being only till July 29th? Not sure how I can explain this to them
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gc28262
06-11 08:19 AM
we should collectively aim our approach to get SSA back and use up other benifits
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I agree. This should be one of our action items.
J thomas
I agree. This should be one of our action items.
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enthu999
05-09 07:41 PM
I had similar issue when trying to refinance
My loan was Jumbo and to bring it to confirmation limits to get better rate the lender
tried doing home equity loan, at the end when we thought every thing was ok
they back and told they cannot give home equity loan because my Green card has not been aproved though I provided the AOS reciept and EAD.
The underwriter is FannieMae.
This for sure is a discrimination, in the current situation we cannot really make any benefit out of low mortgage rates..and the when the ARM is close to expire...god knows how
the interest rates would be.
My loan was Jumbo and to bring it to confirmation limits to get better rate the lender
tried doing home equity loan, at the end when we thought every thing was ok
they back and told they cannot give home equity loan because my Green card has not been aproved though I provided the AOS reciept and EAD.
The underwriter is FannieMae.
This for sure is a discrimination, in the current situation we cannot really make any benefit out of low mortgage rates..and the when the ARM is close to expire...god knows how
the interest rates would be.
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villamonte6100
04-02 01:38 PM
No wonder you do not like people complaining about things not moving fast enough. Dude, you got to eat something to know how it tastes.
If you are getting a GC sooner just because you are an Australian, you have no moral authority to preach people who are affected. This thread is not for you, you are welcome to visit other threads though.
You are entitled to your opinion.
If you are getting a GC sooner just because you are an Australian, you have no moral authority to preach people who are affected. This thread is not for you, you are welcome to visit other threads though.
You are entitled to your opinion.
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pappu
09-10 11:30 AM
Thanks everyone for the contributions. I will add up tonight and give the update. We have a 30K goal. So lets do it before the deadline.
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H1B believe it or not is a "dual intent visa". F1 is NOT a dual intent visa. So what that means is even tho a person entered USA on H1B(which is Nonimmigrant visa) he can have a dual intent to "adjust status" and become a permanent resident.
So I would think it would very wise to be given a PD based on when a person started working on "H"
Coming in through H1 does'nt show your intention of becoming a permanent resident of this country. It only happens when the LC is applied. Although the entry date is an ingenious way, it will only create more issues. Now some one who comes in F1 can also ask for the same benefit when they move to H1, to take their entry date in F1 as their priority date. I believe the culprits are the labor substitution and the labor certification sales. Those are unfair. Stop labor substitutions, and if they need one, then use the 140 RD as the PD. That should solve most of the problems and people from using labor sub to jump the line.
So I would think it would very wise to be given a PD based on when a person started working on "H"
Coming in through H1 does'nt show your intention of becoming a permanent resident of this country. It only happens when the LC is applied. Although the entry date is an ingenious way, it will only create more issues. Now some one who comes in F1 can also ask for the same benefit when they move to H1, to take their entry date in F1 as their priority date. I believe the culprits are the labor substitution and the labor certification sales. Those are unfair. Stop labor substitutions, and if they need one, then use the 140 RD as the PD. That should solve most of the problems and people from using labor sub to jump the line.
priti8888
06-26 01:51 PM
What is america losing?
Lets take a typical example:
My friend and his wife both have jobs here. They pay around $50K-60 income tax (approx) as a couple.
They have 10 yrs of exp. (approx) or have masters degree. They have a decent bit of 401K. And about 30 years of career left. They also have capital investment in India which is growing at a good pace.
Now if even one is forced to go back I am sure both of them will go back to India or wherever they are from. Makes sense?
So what are they losing by going back to India? Some $$$$. Thats all? No debt. no hassle, just semi retirement early enough.
Now think about 100 couples like this?
Now think about 1000 couples like this?
1000* 60 K = $60 million of taxes and social security lost. Who is going to pay the troops in Iraq? Or the USCIS dumbo? Will he have a job to do if we leave?
And if we leave who is going to pay the medical bills of the baby boomer who needs medicare soon?
Lets say, they replace us with younger workers. what will be their salary? 50K or 75K. lets say 80 K. Chances are they are single. If they are married. Will their wife work immediately. If no, they are collecting taxes from him at a married rate while his spouse has no income. If his wife is educated, how long will she want to live on H4? If she doesnt get H1 will they both go back or stay here endlessly? Chickens (americans).
How much tax will they will pay? If they are on F1 EAD, even better, they dont even pay social security.
Of course we lost $$$$ income, but we are not in so much deep shit as US would be if they lose 1000 couples, just 2000 people.
Now lets say we go to India and undergo semi retirement. Fine, US companies maintain competitive advantage and they gain most. But if we decide to continue to excel, can not such 2000 start a formidably competitive business? Who wins? India or USA? Or will they start multiple businesses?
Its about the numbers. If 1 or 2 dont get GC , it doesnt matter. But if thousands are impacted, most of them smart people, it will hurt someone here or many ones.
What have we really asked for in return? Just a piece of plastic that will let us live and contribute like everyone else here.
They have a problem with that too. Bloody morons.
For how many years this game of making people fools will continue? Message spreads fast. I am already telling my junior relative what to expect in America.
I totally agree with you, but think about this.
For every couple who plan to leave, there are 5 couples anxious to replace them. Do you know the % of visas approved vs visa applicants?.The 5 couples could be from anywhere, not just from india where the economy is in good shape.
My point is that America does lose when someone goes back.But the loss is on a very very micro level----and replacement is not that difficult.
Lets take a typical example:
My friend and his wife both have jobs here. They pay around $50K-60 income tax (approx) as a couple.
They have 10 yrs of exp. (approx) or have masters degree. They have a decent bit of 401K. And about 30 years of career left. They also have capital investment in India which is growing at a good pace.
Now if even one is forced to go back I am sure both of them will go back to India or wherever they are from. Makes sense?
So what are they losing by going back to India? Some $$$$. Thats all? No debt. no hassle, just semi retirement early enough.
Now think about 100 couples like this?
Now think about 1000 couples like this?
1000* 60 K = $60 million of taxes and social security lost. Who is going to pay the troops in Iraq? Or the USCIS dumbo? Will he have a job to do if we leave?
And if we leave who is going to pay the medical bills of the baby boomer who needs medicare soon?
Lets say, they replace us with younger workers. what will be their salary? 50K or 75K. lets say 80 K. Chances are they are single. If they are married. Will their wife work immediately. If no, they are collecting taxes from him at a married rate while his spouse has no income. If his wife is educated, how long will she want to live on H4? If she doesnt get H1 will they both go back or stay here endlessly? Chickens (americans).
How much tax will they will pay? If they are on F1 EAD, even better, they dont even pay social security.
Of course we lost $$$$ income, but we are not in so much deep shit as US would be if they lose 1000 couples, just 2000 people.
Now lets say we go to India and undergo semi retirement. Fine, US companies maintain competitive advantage and they gain most. But if we decide to continue to excel, can not such 2000 start a formidably competitive business? Who wins? India or USA? Or will they start multiple businesses?
Its about the numbers. If 1 or 2 dont get GC , it doesnt matter. But if thousands are impacted, most of them smart people, it will hurt someone here or many ones.
What have we really asked for in return? Just a piece of plastic that will let us live and contribute like everyone else here.
They have a problem with that too. Bloody morons.
For how many years this game of making people fools will continue? Message spreads fast. I am already telling my junior relative what to expect in America.
I totally agree with you, but think about this.
For every couple who plan to leave, there are 5 couples anxious to replace them. Do you know the % of visas approved vs visa applicants?.The 5 couples could be from anywhere, not just from india where the economy is in good shape.
My point is that America does lose when someone goes back.But the loss is on a very very micro level----and replacement is not that difficult.
harivenkat
08-13 08:56 AM
"08/12/2010: Wow, That Is Fast. H.R. 6080 Presented to President Today, and President to Sign 08/13/2010, Friday
* As soon as the Senate passed the bill, the Congress quickly cleared for White House and has already been presented to the President. Since it passed during the special session, everything had to be cleared out of the Congress quickly, I guess. USCIS must be busy to get ready for processing and collecting increased fees from these employers soon. The new filing fees will be a huge amount, especially when they decide to file a premium processing request. Can you imagine how much these employers will lose for a single case if the case is filed on premium and denied!! Ouch!
* The new fees will take effect tomorrow since the President is scheduled to sign it into law at 11:00 a.m. EST, tomorrow. "
- The OH Law
wondering if its time to leave....
* As soon as the Senate passed the bill, the Congress quickly cleared for White House and has already been presented to the President. Since it passed during the special session, everything had to be cleared out of the Congress quickly, I guess. USCIS must be busy to get ready for processing and collecting increased fees from these employers soon. The new filing fees will be a huge amount, especially when they decide to file a premium processing request. Can you imagine how much these employers will lose for a single case if the case is filed on premium and denied!! Ouch!
* The new fees will take effect tomorrow since the President is scheduled to sign it into law at 11:00 a.m. EST, tomorrow. "
- The OH Law
wondering if its time to leave....
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